The following talk was given at the Insight Meditation Center in Redwood City, California.

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Good evening. Welcome, welcome.

I so appreciate meditating together.

There's something just really wonderful about it.

No matter what's happening, there's just, I don't know, so thank you for that.

So I had the great good fortune these past few days last week to be doing some hiking in southern Utah.

And it was just so beautiful. It was just so wonderful.

And there's a number of reasons why I thought it was wonderful, but part of it is just being away.

Being away from being on screens, you know, being out of hiking or some of my usual responsibilities, but also just to be outside with trees and rocks and nature, quote unquote.

And I noticed, though, even though there was like so much appreciation and, I don't know,

just so much happiness about just being outside and walking, you know, so simple.

Just walking.

But I noticed that I felt a little bit more of this ease

when I was on those trails when there was less people.

It seemed like when there was a lot of people and crowded on the trails and stuff like that. I was so happy to be outside, happy to be doing that.

But when I was on a trail where there weren't so many people, there was another little set of

a certain set of ease.

Maybe a little bit easier to tune into maybe some of the beauty or the quiet simplicity.

This sense of maybe to this naturalness too.

For me, there was a, maybe when there weren't so many people, I'm just

right now thinking about it. Maybe there is a certain amount of ease that could arise. I tend to

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