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Behind the Walls: Dave Grosky on Life inside with Chicago’s Jerry Scalise

Gangland Wire

Gary Jenkins: Mafia Detective

True Crime, Documentary, Society & Culture, History

4.6623 Ratings

🗓️ 9 June 2025

⏱️ 30 minutes

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Summary

In this revealing episode of Gangland Wire, retired intelligence detective Gary Jenkins sits down with Dave Grosky, a man who spent over a decade inside federal prisons—and came out with a story unlike any other. From FCI Loretto to Morgantown to Milan, Dave’s journey through the prison system introduced him to a cast of characters that included notorious organized crime figures—none more compelling than Chicago mobster Jerry Scalise.

Dave opens up about the realities of prison life, shattering the myth of so-called "white-collar prisons." He recalls how he started off flying under the radar, eventually becoming the go-to jailhouse lawyer who helped fellow inmates with their legal battles. His insider knowledge of the prison legal system offers rare insights into the inner workings of federal institutions and the complex struggles inmates face daily.

The heart of this episode centers on Dave’s six-year friendship with Jerry Scalise, a former Chicago Outfit member and mastermind behind high-profile heists—including the infamous Graff Jewelry store robbery in London. Dave paints a surprising portrait of Scalise, describing him as intelligent, generous, and deeply respected behind bars. Despite Jerry’s criminal history, his actions inside prison—mentoring others, offering legal guidance, and preparing inmates for life after release—reveal a more nuanced, human side of the mobster.

We also revisit some of Jerry’s most notorious exploits, including the legendary Marlboro Diamond heist. The fate of that diamond still remains a mystery, and Dave offers a few tongue-in-cheek theories of where it might be hiding today.

Beyond the stories of crime and camaraderie, Dave speaks candidly about the psychological toll of long-term incarceration and the steep challenges of reentering society—especially in a post-pandemic world. His reflections reveal a broken system where few resources exist to support real rehabilitation, leaving many former inmates at risk of falling back into old patterns.

This episode offers more than just mob tales and prison anecdotes—it’s a raw, thought-provoking look at crime, punishment, and the long road to redemption.
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Transcript
[0:00] Well, hey, all you wiretappers, good to be back here in the studio of Gangland Wire. You know, this is retired Kansas City Police Detective, Intelligence Unit Detective, I should add that, Gary Jenkins. A lot of y'all already know me, and if you don't, that's who I am. And I have a man here on the Zoom call that Dave Grosky, that Dave spent time with Jerry Scalise.

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0:00.0

Well, hey, all you wiretappers.

0:01.2

Good to be back here in the studio of Gangland Wire.

0:03.3

You know, this is retired Kansas City Police Detective and television unit detective.

0:08.2

I should add that.

0:09.3

Gary Jenkins, a lot of you all already know me, and if you don't, that's who I am.

0:13.5

And I have a man here on the Zoom call that Dave Grosky, that Dave spent time with Jerry Scalise.

0:22.5

He got hold of me through LinkedIn.

0:24.6

And he said, hey, I was in the penitentiary with Jerry Scalice, and he's a good guy.

0:28.9

And I said, yeah, I'd love to tell his story.

0:31.0

I said, can you get him to get on my show?

0:32.7

Well, they can't get him to get on my show.

0:34.4

Because I know Jerry's out and he's somewhere.

0:36.4

I don't know where he is I think he's in Chicago but I don't know and and his old rap partner Art Rachel's out and Dave has met

0:43.4

both those guys and and other mob guys because he was in penitentiary with several of them so

0:48.5

Dave welcome I really appreciate you responding on the LinkedIn. Gary it's a pleasure and. And, yeah, I mean, I, I, uh, I was, uh, in several federal prisons for almost 11 years.

0:59.1

I began at FCI Loretto in 2008.

1:02.3

And there, there were some Gambinos and a variety of mob guys.

1:06.7

I never really got to know them there well.

1:09.6

I was, you know, I was, uh, new to prison, so I was really keeping quiet.

1:14.2

You know, really pretty much out of the gate because I'm a lawyer by background. I was doing a lot

1:18.4

of legal work helping people. Once people found out I was a lawyer, I was busy within two weeks,

1:23.2

you know, busy until I left almost 11 years later, almost on a, you know, their daily basis.

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