Welcome back to the Art of Online Business podcast.

And in 2025, if you've thought that this is going to be your year to start your own podcast or grow your own podcast, well, then you're going to get a lot of value from today's episode because we have none other than Justin Shank.

I'm going to read his bio for you right now.

He's an entrepreneur.

He's a speaker. He's a speaker.

He's the host of the top rated podcast called The Growth Now Movement. And he's been named

a top eight podcaster to follow by Inc magazine. He's been featured in Thrive Global and chosen

as the icon of influence in the new media space. I'm going to pause right now just to say that

we've actually been chatting for the past 20 minutes. He has a super successful podcast and he's

going to speak at Podfest, which by the time you are listening to this episode is back in the

past, but I know a couple of people who are going to that event. And so to have

a podcast speaker on, wow, cool. All right. The rest of his bio, his podcast has grown to become

a podcast that's currently getting played in over 100 countries every single week. And he's got on

to help countless people grow their brands and business with his company podbrand.io. He's also the host and creator of one of the go-to events

for entrepreneurs and forward thinkers.

And that is called the Grow Now Summit.

Live and you'll get more info about that

if you would like to attend later on in this episode.

I will say welcome, Justin Chink.

Oh, thank you guys so much. I'm really excited to dive in. You know, it's, it's funny because

my, my business has grown so much over the last number of years. I don't get to talk about

podcasting as much as I used to. Like podcasting used to be the topic that I really dove into.

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