Hello, Wine Embers. My name is Jesse Meakum, and this is podcast number 523 for Wine

Ab, where we teach you four rules to help you stop if you paycheck to paycheck, get out

of debt, and save more money. I am very excited to have back with us another part of our

series of Wine Ab behind the scenes. Today, I ask many, many Wine Embers, and I should

clarify once more. Wine Ab in this sense means a Wine Ab team member. I mean, we're all

Wine Abbers, right? So this is a behind the scenes with the Wine Ab team, asking them

this question, what is the best personal finance advice you have ever received? How many

of them are going to say, take it a budget? Well, you'll just have to listen and find out.

So I will see you on the other side.

Yeah, you know, it's like in an ethics class where they're like, I don't know, someone's

on a train track, and you're just kind of like, okay, there's no win here. That's why

this has been designed this way so that you can just debate. And what you're debating

is, it's like totally up for grabs. One thing that's interesting I've noticed is a lot

of times people will treat those debates like they are mutually exclusive and they're

not. So you could, you know, find some kind of a meeting in the middle or something like

I'll tell them you said that. Yeah. So like you got to, it's not best of both worlds

because you're like, well, my best world is the student loans are gone and that's a great

world. But there's also the idea of getting aggressive on investing and seeing that grow,

you know, while you're still young, I don't know exactly how old you are, but you said

you were early in career. So while you're still young, starting to get going on investing

and everything is, is obviously, you know, all kinds of compound interest calculations

tell us. So I lean personally, Jesse, I lean more toward your side of things. I would

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