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Behind the Prophet: Samuel Bateman’s Rise to Power & What Netflix Missed

Hidden True Crime

Hidden True Crime

News Commentary, Documentary, True Crime, News, Society & Culture

4.62.5K Ratings

🗓️ 3 May 2026

⏱️ 61 minutes

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Summary

Secrets, power, and belief—this episode unpacks the disturbing rise of Samuel Bateman and the system that allowed his abuse to flourish. From the origins of the FLDS and the influence of leaders like Warren Jeffs, to the isolation and unchecked authority that created an environment ripe for manipulation, we explore how control takes hold—and why it’s so hard to break free. At the center is Christine Marie, whose undercover work helped expose Bateman’s crimes and protect victims, while also challenging the narrative by showing that many within the community resisted and helped bring him down. This episode goes beyond the Netflix documentary Trust Me: A False Prophet to examine the hidden motives, missed opportunities for intervention, and the survivors now reclaiming their lives—reminding us that these systems don’t just exist in isolation… they grow in secrecy. Sponsor: First Day Life- Our listeners get up to 57% Off AND a Free Gift with code HIDDEN at https://FirstDay.com About Hidden True Crime What started as a simple conversation at their dinner table became a captivating podcast. Join the dynamic duo of Dr. John Matthias, a criminal psychologist, and Lauren Matthias, an investigative journalist, as they delve into the psychological facets of unthinkable crimes every week. Their unique perspectives and in-depth analysis offer a fresh take on true crime storytelling. Thank you for your support through sponsorships, subscribing, listening, and becoming a Patreon member at⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Patreon.com/HiddenTrueCrime⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

Are you a prophet?

0:01.0

I would be a liar if I said I wasn't.

0:05.0

After years of abuse and control over several young girls,

0:09.0

a federal judge sentenced the man behind it all.

0:12.0

Sam Baitman saw himself being an heir apparent to warrant Jeffs.

0:17.0

His crimes were so heinous and so willful. We're following a false prophet,

0:24.6

and he's leading us right to hell. The youngest just nine years old when she says the sexual

0:30.1

abuse began. Seeing Sam with all these females is concerning. There were rumors that he was

0:36.5

married to the children.

0:38.0

We get a lot of messages.

0:40.4

Some ask us to look into a case.

0:42.3

Others send us a tip.

0:44.2

Or last week, someone asked,

0:46.6

why do we cover so many cases out of the state of Utah?

0:50.5

And here's the deal.

0:52.3

You have to go back to before hidden true crime existed. When I was a local

0:56.7

broadcaster, I reported all over Utah and Idaho. So I sort of know the area. Or I should say,

1:05.8

I know their secrets. We always say you're a sane or as sick as the secrets you keep. And I can tell you,

1:12.9

Utah, particularly southern Utah, has a lot of secrets. My friend, Dr. Christine Marie, she knows this

1:20.7

too. She moved out west from Michigan. And once she landed in Utah, got settled, she gets taken by a religious cult leader, a false prophet.

1:32.2

I'm not kidding.

1:33.2

So after a time there, like, you know, she finally gets out, starts to realize what had happened to her, but not in time for her to not be trafficked, abused, mentally tortured.

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