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Behind the News: The Kaepernick Effect

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News, History, Politics

4.71.6K Ratings

🗓️ 22 September 2021

⏱️ 53 minutes

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Summary

Doug speaks with Dave Zirin, author of The Kaepernick Effect, on how taking a knee spread across the country (and why leftists shouldn’t hate sports). Plus: Dwayne Monroe, cloud data architect (and author of this piece: https://monroelab.net/attack-mannequins-ai-as-propaganda), disassembles the hype around artificial intelligence.


Behind the News, hosted by Doug Henwood, covers the worlds of economics and politics and their complex interactions, from the local to the global. Find the archive here: https://www.leftbusinessobserver.com/Radio.html

Transcript

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Hello and welcome to Behind the News.

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My name is Doug Henrywood.

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Today we'll hear from the left's leading sports journalist Dave Zyron

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on Colin Kaepernick in the tradition of activist athletes

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and then the data architect Wayne Monroe will deflate all the hype around artificial intelligence.

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I'm not a sports fan, though fate played a little trick on me by giving me a son who is.

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But I have no patience for people on the left who are contemptuous of sports

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because they're a distraction from politics or because they're aggressive and competitive

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and no model for any society to follow.

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Nice way to dismiss something that gives great pleasure to billions.

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And as my first guest Dave Zyron argues, aside from being great entertainment,

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sports are very much embedded in our society and are therefore unavoidably political.

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Zyron, the sports editor of the Nation magazine, is just out with a book.

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The Kaepernick effect, taking a knee, changing the world, published by the new press.

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It explores not only Colin Kaepernick's original gesture, which ignited quite the firestorm,

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but the effect it had on athletes across the country,

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not just professionals but in high schools and colleges as well.

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Kaepernick, for those who have been living under a rock, in 2016,

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