Behind the Curtain of the New CDC Panel on Vaccines: Dr. Robert Malone and Retsef Levi

American Thought Leaders

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🗓️ 6 July 2025

⏱️ 101 minutes

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Summary

Recently, the CDC’s Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices (ACIP) met for the first time after Health Secretary Robert F. Kennedy Jr. replaced its entire membership with new picks.

In this episode, I’m sitting down with two new ACIP members, Dr. Robert Malone and MIT professor Retsef Levi, for a deep dive into all things ACIP.

“They basically impact billions of dollars of revenue for the pharmaceutical industry. So there’s big money at stake here. There’s big policy at stake,” says Malone.

“One of the problems that we had in the context of vaccines, and more broadly maybe pharmaceutical products, is that debate was considered confusing to patients and something that we should avoid,” says Levi.

We take a look at some key discussions during the recent meeting, from thimerosal in certain flu vaccines to RSV shots for children, and what may happen with this committee moving forward.

“What you’re seeing here is a firm commitment on the part of these two volunteers, and I think the committee as a whole, in trying to be open and transparent to the general public,” Malone says.

Views expressed in this video are opinions of the host and the guest and do not necessarily reflect the views of The Epoch Times.

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0:00.0	They basically impact on billions of dollars of revenue for the pharmaceutical industry.
0:07.0	So there's big money at stake here, there's big policy at stake.
0:11.0	Recently, the CDC's Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices, ASIP, met for the first time
0:17.0	after HHS Secretary Robert F. Kennedy Jr. replaced its entire membership with
0:22.8	new picks. In this episode, I'm sitting down with two new ASIP members, Dr. Robert Malone and
0:28.1	MIT professor Retzif Levy, for a deep dive into all things ASIP. One of the problems that
0:34.5	we had in the context of vaccines is that debate was considered as
0:41.0	confusing to patients as something that we should avoid.
0:44.9	We take a look at some key discussions during the recent meeting, from Mercury and the
0:49.6	flu vaccine to RSV shots for children, and what may happen with this committee moving forward.
0:55.5	This is American Thought Leaders, and I'm Jan Yalek.
1:00.5	Dr. Robert Malone, Professor Retzep Levy, such a pleasure to have you on American Thought
1:05.3	Leaders.
1:06.6	Thank you, Jan. It's a pleasure to be here.
1:09.2	Thanks, Jan. It's a pleasure to be here again. And I'm so pleased with how American thought leaders has been growing and to be part of this yet again.
1:20.6	Well, it's wonderful. Of course, you have both been on the show before. This is the first time that you're together.
1:26.9	And huge congratulations on completing
1:29.4	the first meeting of this new ASIP panel that's been put together, two of eight. Why don't
1:36.4	we actually start with this? This is a committee that actually has quite a bit of influence
1:41.2	in decision making, but most people haven't actually heard of it until
1:46.7	very recently. So bottom line, what is ASIP in the end? So ASIP is an acronym. It stands for
1:53.8	the advisory committee on immunization practices. This is a federal advisory committee. It's the product of the Federal Advisory Committee Act. And so,
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