Ah, she's brilliant. Miss, I finally got plans out the group chat. We get it. Four votes for a festival,

three for a city break. It's hard to adhere to everyone's needs. There's Betty with her oversized tent,

Sarah and her six foot eight boyfriend.

All right.

Roger Junior and his dog, Roger Senior.

And don't get us started on Mel.

But, like a marriage counselor, she's the one keeping things together.

All aboard Miss, I finally got plans out the group chat.

Keep everyone's plans alive when you travel with us.

P and O'Ferees, there is another way.

Oh, he's cute, Mr. I can never sleep when I'm traveling. He's hugging his pillow like a sloth on a branch.

He couldn't sleep before. Now listen to him him sounds like an elephant with a chest infection

Well, they call him a dreamer and now they're right all aboard mister. I can never sleep when I'm traveling.

Find all the comfort you need in the quiet lounge.

Pinedo Ferries, there is another way. The Hey everybody June snuck in a fifth Wednesday this year so we are bringing you this bonus episode of a wonderful conversation we had with Dr. Aldo Chamino of Kent State University.

If you recall in episode 85,

Dr Scott and I discussed hazing as a phenomenon

and we cited much of Dr. Chamino's work,

so it was wonderful to take this opportunity to dig deeper with him.

He took us inside a fraternity where he had conducted an ethnographic study of culture and

ritual from an anthropologist's point of view and then discussed his views on the reasons why this particular phenomenon continues to be a part of American culture.

And if you have not listened to one of our live streams before or are not a

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