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I'm Emily Campaniel, and this is the Fox True Crime podcast.

Thank you. True Crime Podcast. Many of us know Eric and Lyle Menendez from newspapers, magazines, and television screens.

But how many of us can say that we actually know them?

My guest today spent 11 months in solitary confinement with Lyle Menendez

and saw a different side of him, never shown by the media.

Michael Francis is a former Kappa regime of the Colombo crime family, who, with the help of a second chance, is now a mentor, author, and speaker.

He's also my friend. And today, Michael joins me to discuss his unique experience with Lyle, as well as his reaction to the resentencing opportunity of the Menendez brothers.

Well, you know, I was doing federal time.

I was actually on a parole violation in Northern California.

When the state, actually, L.A. County picked me up,

and they were trying to indict me basically on the same charges

that I was already doing the parole violation for.

So they took me to L.A. County Jail.

And, you know, it's funny, Emily, when I was leaving the federal jail, the correctional officer,

the lieutenant said to the state, I want this guy back exactly the way I'm sending him to you.

He's an important federal prisoner.

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