Behe and Ramage: Evolution’s Limits and the Fingerprints of Design

Intelligent Design the Future

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🗓️ 31 August 2022

⏱️ 33 minutes

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Today’s ID the Future wraps up a debate over evolution and intelligent design between Lehigh University biologist Michael Behe and Benedictine College theologian Michael Ramage. Both Behe and Ramage are Catholic, and they carry on their conversation in the context of Catholic thinking about nature and creation, in particular the work of Thomas Aquinas and contemporary Thomist philosophers. Ramage seeks to integrate his Thomistic/personalist framework with modern evolutionary theory’s commitment to macroevolution and common descent. Behe doesn’t discount the possibility of common descent but lays out a case that any evolution beyond the level of genus (for instance, the separate families containing cats and dogs) cannot be achieved through mindless Darwinian mechanisms and, instead, would require the contributions of a Read More ›

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0:00.0	I d the future a podcast about evolution and intelligent design
0:12.4	Greetings I'm Tom Gilson. Today on ID The Future, we hear the third and final portion of a deep discussion on intelligent design represented by ID pioneer Dr Michael Bihy speaking with
0:26.2	philosopher theologian Matthew Ramage representing an influential
0:31.0	Tomistic view of Roman Catholic philosophy and theology.
0:35.9	They're hosted by Pat Flynn on his Philosophy for the People Podcast, whose voice is the first
0:42.0	you'll hear as they begin.
0:44.0	Yeah, let me offer a few thoughts in this because I think there's a lot of stuff here.
0:49.0	And this is very fruitful actually. I think is this is very clarifying one is that
0:54.9	Matt you said something earlier I completely agree with that the God is not we don't get to
0:59.3	God at certainly not as Catholics by by it inference to the best explanation right we're not assigning a credence to God of 87% or something like that right however we don't but many philosophers of religion do, right?
1:13.6	That's sort of how philosophy religion works these days
1:16.3	is with your Bayesian analysis, right?
1:18.5	Of people who have had these worldview
1:25.0	so substantially
1:28.0	is not just the problem of evil,
1:29.6	but the problem of evil linked
1:31.2	with evolutionary science.
1:32.9	And they just take that for granted, right?
1:35.9	And they think that those two things, in combination,
1:38.9	evolution, especially how they think evolution
1:41.4	helps to explain on evil,
1:42.7	just tips to scales decisively in favor
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