Welcome back to another episode of Before We Hit Record, where you get to hear all the cool, juicy,

fun, intriguing conversations between me and an upcoming podcast guest before that guest expert

episode releases. And today is pretty cool. If you remember, I started this whole segment because

I'm all lonely here in Mexico where I live,

and I want to actually meet, not just record episodes with other interesting and successful

online entrepreneurs. And we have somebody here named Ben. And I actually knew Ben from way back

three-ish years ago when I coached him inside of one of

Rick Mulready's programs called, what was that called, Ben?

Oh, I think it was called Offer.

Offer to Optimize, was it?

That's it.

Yep, you got it.

Offer to optimize.

And so if you're listening,

what's going to happen here is you just get to hear Ben and I get to know each other and catch

up in all the conversation that happens because, you know what, back in the day, back in my day,

you know, we used to sit down with folks and get to know them before we ever did business with

them. And Ben is the owner of engage video marketing he's a

passionate online video strategist video producer international speaker by the way he just finished

up speaking at social media marketing world not virtually but standing physically in person on stage. He's legit.

And what he does is he works with high impact brands worldwide to connect them with their

ideal audiences through effective online video marketing. And as the host of his own podcast

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