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The Anxious Achiever

Beekman 1802's Josh Kilmer-Purcell: Anxiety Is My Superpower

The Anxious Achiever

Morra Aarons-Mele

Business, Careers, Management, Health & Fitness, Mental Health

4.7599 Ratings

🗓️ 7 October 2025

⏱️ 57 minutes

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Summary

So many high achievers feel like their anxiety or depression will hold them back, but what if those challenges are actually your edge? In this episode, I sit down with Josh Kilmer-Purcell, co-founder of Beekman 1802 and Amazing Race winner, to talk about how living with anxiety and depression can shape your leadership, your creativity, and your approach to risk. Josh shares the mindset shifts, practical tools, and partnership strategies that helped him build a $150M brand without ignoring mental health. We also dive into empathy as a business strength, using “nightmare boards” to manage risk, and why kindness is a measurable business advantage. Get ready to use your anxiety as your superpower! In this Episode, You Will Learn 00:00 Meet Josh Kilmer-Purcell, co-founder of Beekman 1802. 05:00 Risk and mental health in entrepreneurship and leadership. 08:30 Anxiety as a superpower and depression as a source of empathy. 16:30 How to use anxiety as a strategic advantage in your business. 20:30 The 51% rule for making tough business and relationship decisions. 26:45 Tools to manage depression and build resilience. 32:30 What is a nightmare board? 34:45 How to reframe envy into growth and perspective. 40:00 What chickens and “crone hens” teach us about aging, purpose, and enoughness. 47:15 Why sticking to your success goalpost builds lasting contentment. 54:00 How to know if you belong among people or in nature. Resources + Links Get a copy of my book - The Anxious Achiever Watch the podcast on YouTube  Find more resources on our website morraam.com Follow Follow me: on LinkedIn @morraaronsmele + Instagram @morraam Follow Josh on LinkedIn: @joshkilmerpurcell

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0:00.0

Today on the anxious achiever, the story of an anxious entrepreneur who was told by his

0:06.5

psychologist when he was a young man that he needed to find a career that he could handle,

0:12.5

one suited to his supposedly fragile temperament. While this anxious entrepreneur went on

0:18.1

to found an incredible business that sold for $92 million.

0:23.7

I'm Maura Erin Smealy, and this is the Anxious Achiever, the show that looks at the intersection

0:29.6

of mental health and leadership and work and asks, how can we do it all better?

0:37.3

Josh Kilmer Purcell is a self-describe, anxious entrepreneur, but his anxiety hasn't held him

0:44.0

back.

0:44.5

Instead, it's led him to have an approach to risk that built a 10-figure beauty and wellness brand.

0:53.1

Josh and his husband, Dr. Brent Ridge, co-founded Beekman 1802, which grew

0:58.9

from a goat farm in upstate New York to filling shelves at all the big beauty stores. Along the way,

1:05.7

they won the amazing race, and they built a business around kindness. Josh tells me, I had no role models growing up in the corporate world, no mentors

1:15.8

who would talk about mental illness.

1:19.8

Josh has lived his whole life with clinical depression and anxiety.

1:24.3

And over time, he's come to appreciate the upsides of the pain behind having depression and anxiety.

1:33.8

He says, I really did start to see anxiety as my superpower and my depression as a way to help me empathize with consumers.

1:41.7

My Conversation with Josh Kilmer Purcell.

1:49.0

Josh Kilmer Purcell, welcome to the anxious achiever. I'm just thrilled you're here.

1:55.9

Thank you. I'm so happy to be here. I mean, what what you're doing is so important and so close to my heart.

2:01.5

So I am just thrilled to be a part of it.

2:04.5

Well, I have to tell you that we're both Harvard Business Review authors.

2:11.2

And when Felicia, who is the head of PR at the press at Harvard Business Review, sent me your book. And she tagged the page

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