Hello and welcome to being well. I'm Forrest Hansen. I'm joined today as usual by Dr.

Rick Hansen, so how are you doing today? I'm pretty good with a cold so if I sound a little weird that's why. Well you're you're

soldiering odd in the face of adversity which we always appreciate around here.

They're going to put on my tombstone, A for effort.

Oh my goodness.

I don't know if that's a groom reflection or a positive one,

but it's one or the other.

Really looking forward to doing this episode today,

which is going to cover what I think is such a rich intersection of both interpersonal skills and intra-personal skills.

In our important relationships at home and at work, we need to respect the needs of others while also sticking up for our own needs.

But that's often easier said than done. And today we're going to be talking about how we can

grow the lasting inner strengths that allow us to do just that, how we can be to put it a certain kind of way,

both friendly and fearless. To help us do that, we have the pleasure of being joined

by a longtime friend of yours and mine, Dr. Daniel Ellenberg.

Before we get to Daniel, I'd like to take a moment to remind you about our new Patreon account.

It's at Patreon.com backslash Being Well Podcast. If you'd like to support the show through Patreon I've included a

link to it in the description of today's episode. It honestly means so much to me

and to Rick as well that the people who listen to the show are willing to extend to us their support.

There are so many different ways for you to access these kinds of mental health resources and

whether you support the show by becoming a patron, telling a friend about it, or really even just

listening, it truly means a lot to us. So that said, on to Daniel. So Daniel has

been practicing marriage and family therapy for over 30 years and is the co-founder

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