Hello and welcome to being well. I'm Forrest Hanson. I'm joined as usual by Dr. Rick Hansen.

On this podcast we've talked a lot about getting the most that we can out of our lives and also about our relationship with death. One of the

things that we haven't talked about very much so far, though, has been grief and the process

of coming to terms internally and externally with the deaths of others,

particularly when those deaths have been somewhat traumatic in nature.

Neither Dr. Hansen nor myself would describe ourselves

as experts in this topic,

but today we have the absolute pleasure of being joined by somebody who is.

Dr. Joanne Kachatori. Dr. Kachatori is an associate professor at Arizona State University

and founder of the Miss Foundation,

a volunteer-based organization providing counseling, advocacy,

research and education services to families experiencing the death of a child.

She specializes in counseling those affected by traumatic death. the of the International Society for Traumatic Stress Studies

and the National Center for Crisis Management.

She spearheaded and directs the graduate certificate

in trauma and bereavement program at ASU and is also an ordained Zen priest affiliated with

Zen Garland and its child bereavement center outside of New York City. She's also the author of

Bering the Unbearable, Love, Loss, and The Heartbreaking Path of Grief.

Her research has been published in a number of peer-reviewed journals and she's been featured in the New York Times,

Boston Globe, CNN, NPR, and the Los Angeles Times.

As you might expect, during this episode, we explored a lot of topics that can be really

challenging for people.

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