Light that spark fire nation, JLD here and welcome to Entrepreneurs on Fire brought to you by the HubSpot podcast network with great shows like ABM conversations.

Today we'll be talking about becoming a hero, how to transform into the best version of yourself.

To drop these value bombs, I have brought Brian Johnson into EO Fire Studios.

Brian is a founder and CEO of Heroic who recently made crowdfunding history in building a social training platform that will change the world.

Today we'll share the number one lesson learned from Brian with over 600 philosophy and personal development books, pretty special stuff.

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Brian say what's up to fire nation and share something that you believe about becoming successful that most people disagree with.

John great to be here and you know what I think it's less about what people disagree with and more I just don't think people are thinking about what I would describe as the ultimate game.

So I'm a big student of ancient wisdom and modern science and if you asked Aristotle and Martin Seligman what the real game of life is, they'd give a very different answer than what most of us think about.

We can talk about that more but basically you die money of the RIT in Greek in English flourish by putting your virtues in action be the best most heroic version of yourself moment to moment to moment that's the ultimate game.

And again, I just don't think most people are thinking about that to even get to a point where they can disagree with it.

I think most people aren't even playing the right game so I cannot agree with you more it's a game of life that few people are choosing to play their way because they don't even understand that's a possibility and you've had Brian a fascinating career.

I mean, you spent 12 years as a CEO in 13 as a philosopher and most recently you just made crowdfunding history with your new company heroic break down this journey for us.

Yeah, you know, I've been passionate for all 25 of those years with understanding what it is that makes great people great kind of that point 001% that really go out and fulfill their potential, live their destiny and make an impact in the world.

And that's just led me to a pretty idiosyncratic path where built and sold to social platforms as a founder CEO and then spent the other time reading writing, teaching, thinking, repeating as a philosopher.

And now bringing it all together with heroic, but the through line has been what does a great life look like?

What are what have all the great teachers set across time and cultures and how do I embody that and then how do I inspire and empower others do the same.

So one thing that I'm really excited to learn a little bit about is the fact that you've read over now 600 philosophy and personal development books.

And I know the value bombs are endless in this amount of books you've read, but if you could just share a couple of the biggest lessons learned from these over 600 books, what would those lessons be if we did ask Aristotle and Martin Seligman as I mentioned as proxies for my passion is ancient wisdom, modern science, what if all the great wisdom traditions have to say.

And then what is science kind of confirmed, but if you asked us to guys what the ultimate meaning of life is they would say you demonia via RIT and flourish by putting a virtues in action as I said, but basically express the best version of yourself.

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