The worse you feel the more committed you need to be to your protocol

Welcome to the Spartan Up podcast with Joe DeSenna founder and CEO of Spartan Race

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Joe Descenta here, CEO and founder of Spartan in the Spartan Up podcast where we attempt to

rip you off the couch and make you better. I got a big one here today. This is an old

friend of mine probably back from 2,500 years ago. We've been reincarnated many times

most likely. This is the most stoic guy I know and I'm in a jam when the universe

is turning my life upside down, this is the man I call Brian Johnson,

CEO founder of heroic. Brian, welcome.

Brother Joe, good to see you. When I'm wondering how I eat obstacles like an energy bar

and deal with stuff that life throws at you,

you literally are the guy that I'm thinking of

and just thinking about how I can embrace that grit and show up and give my best.

So thrilled to be here.

I love, last time we saw each other, you did not have that beard, I don't believe.

And so I love how the beard for those of you that are listening and not watching is starting to you're literally looking like an old Greek stone statue. I like I like how it's growing in. I appreciate that, you know. I got my couple of my favorite

heroes, a couple of Stoics back there, Epitetus and Aurelius. So obviously a big part of our work is who are your heroes? What

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