Hi, my name is Pete Gazzaro. I want to welcome you today to the Emotionally Healthy Leader

Podcast. Great to be with you. Our title today is become a leader who cages and tames tigers

part two. And actually, I'm going to focus on taming tigers in particular and creating healthy

culture. And I'm going to talk about the 10 top questions that come to me repeatedly around this issue of creating healthy culture. And I'm going to talk about the 10 top questions that come to me

repeatedly around this issue of creating healthy culture and taming tiger behaviors that are unhealthy.

Now, once I began this journey of emotionally of the discipleship in 1996, that's actually when I

began to even address tigers and tiger behaviors in order to protect our values and culture.

And the reason I didn't do it prior to 1996 was I was I was just very unaware.

I had low differentiation.

I needed validation from people so much that I ran away from conflict.

I was very averse.

I was unaware of my own family of origin,

Genogram material, and I didn't do feelings. So like many ministries, and I led one where we had

a rhetoric of values that came out of our strategic meetings, but we didn't do the hard work of

actually following through on them and make sure that we were embodying them and living them, especially as a leadership. And then our success, you know, we kind

of took the Western culture's definition, which was, hey, our numbers are pretty good, and so

we're good. Why rock the boat too much? So last week, I talked about a parable or a fable by Ed Friedman called the Friendly Forest

as a place to take off on my comments.

And I'll just retell the fable very quickly here and then transition into my the taming of tigers.

So the fable, Ed Freeman goes like this, that once upon a time there was a friendly forest

that lived in all kinds of animals.

And a lamb was there that found out that the leadership had led into the forest a tiger

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