Hi, my name is Pete Skazaro. I want to welcome you today to the Emotionally Healthy

Leader Podcast. Great to be with you. I hope you're glad to be with me. So this is part one of

leaders who cage and tame tigers. Leaders who cage and tame tigers. Once I began this journey

that we call today Emotionally healthy discipleship, it was 1996,

I began the very slow process of beginning to address tigers, conflicts, difficulties,

and protect the values that were important to me.

I actually began to get clear about what my values were as well.

Up to then, I would just say I was a good Christian nice, not a good Christian nice.

I was Christian nice, avoiding conflict and pain, and as a result, led to lots of difficulties and confusion.

And so tigers, I'm going to define them here, are people in situations

that damage a community with their lack of awareness and maturity, perhaps behaviors, their own

engenders or vision. But as we'll see in just a few moments in this parable, I'm going to share

with you, they just do damage to

others in the community. And then this is what makes it such a challenge to leadership. There's

a great challenge within it. What do we do? And so there's actually two extremes. One extreme is we do

nothing. It's a kind of a free-for-all, the book of judges. Everyone does they see fit, and we're not quite sure what to do with strong people who seem to be hurting

other people, because it doesn't just go away by itself. That's one extreme. I did some of that.

Then there's the other extreme, which is we see someone doing damage in the community, and we pounce on

them. We're so concerned about purity, and I can think of one local church near us here in New York City

that actually a husband had an affair left to church, and actually they called a wife

forward and really shamed her in the process.

And again, just the desire to be, we don't want any achins in our midst and sin in our midst

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