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He's an asset, climate scientist, and an activist.

And I have seen him talking and breakdown crying.

I've read about him getting arrested.

He is worried about what we're doing to the environment and Peter Kalmas.

I am having you on with us now because I need not just your expertise, but I need some

help in being able to talk about this because it is so gloomy and hopeless and helpless

that I don't know how to talk to my audience about this without being a doom say or even

if I'm just factually looking at what science is telling me and science is warning me of

the apocalypse.

So thank you for joining us and thank you for bringing your expertise here.

How can I reach my audience with what is happening right now and not have my audience just

feel completely helpless and hopeless about what's happening?

Well, one thing that kind of makes me a little bit hopeful is that in my opinion as a species,

we barely try to stop this.

Like we barely put an effort.

We're not treating this like an emergency.

It is an emergency.

So I'm hoping that if we shift into emergency mode and a huge number of us start really pushing

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