But the courage to follow your heart and intuition, they somehow already know what you truly want to become.

I can't even make this up, he starts walking, I draw back, and he's down, he's right there.

Oh, I already Trevor, welcome to the podcast, man, how you doing?

I'm doing good, man.

Looking out at the mountains, watching more snowfall, couldn't get out this morning, so we're sitting down and talking.

Dude, yeah, I mean, I feel like, first off, you have more hobbies than anyone I've met, which is like saying a lot because I feel like,

I usually know people have a lot of hobbies and like, dude, this guy, A gets after it and B is like the most rounded hobbyist I've ever seen in my entire life.

So like right now, you're doing a bunch of backcountry skiing, climbing the mountain. How many days a week you climb the mountain and ski down?

So when the snow is good and there aren't closures, three to five days a week.

Dude, that's impressive.

I mean, it's in your backyard as soon as you can kind of just like climb up the morning and.

Yeah, it's like literally in my back, I mean, I can look out and I can see places that I've skied.

So yeah, it's like literally in the backyard.

So the head's like dream status.

So have you lifelong skier, are you new to skiing?

Which one is the new hobby? Which one is the old hobby?

So I actually picked up skiing.

I don't know, a couple of years into being in the SEAL teams and I loved it.

I was pissed that I didn't start skiing earlier in life.

I started skiing because I liked climbing and kind of alpine type of adventures and wanted to be able to do it in the winter time.

And then I realized that skiing is really cool all by itself.

So I've really never taken a break from skiing except the last few years when I was snowboarding.

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