From KCRW Santa Monica and KCRW.com, it's The Treatment.

Welcome to The Treatment. I'm Elvis Mitchell. It's good to have an old friend back, Barry Levinson, who has directed so many actors into great performances,

and we were just talking about the terrific opening of the movie. His first film, Diner,

his new movie for HBO is Paterno, starring Al Pacino, but his association with Al Pacino

goes back to, and Justice For All, which got Pacino a best actor nomination in the script

that Mr.

Levinson wrote.

And that movie, like Peterno,

although Paternal's not a comedy, that movie,

and so many of your movies, for me,

are about characters who are in a situation.

There's one character who is so wedded to his present

that he doesn't see the past.

Right.

And that character, for example, and Justice Forall would be

John Forsyth, who is so wedded to this thing he's built around himself. He can't see beyond that.

And the Pacino character is a person who can see past, present, and future. And here those two

extremes are between Joe Peterno and Sarah, the reporter, who's following this thing

and who's been there. And so, even though the movie's called Paterno, it's about a lot more

than that, isn't that? Yeah, absolutely. I mean, there are two specifically different stories.

One is Sarah Gannon, who one year out of Penn State, and she's now a journalist in Harrisburg, young girl,

knew the world of Penn State, who's following the story, breaks the story, nobody pays

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