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🗓️ 11 January 2026
⏱️ 19 minutes
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Mark and Gary break down the sudden withdrawal of defense attorney Alan Jackson from the Nick Reiner case and what it signals about funding, strategy, and the defendant’s mental state. The conversation expands to the role of public defenders, family interests in criminal prosecutions, and the broader obligations of the justice system. They also dive into a developing separation of powers fight involving federal prosecutors and judicial appointments, with implications that could reach the Supreme Court.
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| 0:00.0 | This is beyond a reasonable doubt with your hosts, Mark Geregous and Gary Smith. |
| 0:11.0 | GPS, happy New Year, belated, happy Armenian Christmas. How are you today? |
| 0:15.6 | I'm well. Happy belated Armenian Christmas to you as well. |
| 0:18.8 | Thank you. I think what we jumbled what we were going to do today because of the following clip, which |
| 0:26.5 | I'll let you just post up. |
| 0:28.2 | And when I get to the appropriate point, I'll call time out. |
| 0:31.5 | Sounds good. |
| 0:32.7 | Good morning. |
| 0:34.1 | As you know, my name is Alan Jackson. |
| 0:37.6 | This morning, I had to withdraw as Nick Reiner's counsel. |
| 0:44.7 | Circumstances beyond our control, but more importantly, circumstances beyond Nick's control |
| 0:50.3 | have dictated that sadly it's made it impossible for us to continue our representation |
| 0:57.0 | of Nick. |
| 1:00.0 | I'm legally and I'm ethically prohibited from explaining all the reasons why. |
| 1:05.0 | I know that's a question on everybody's mind. |
| 1:08.0 | We expect the public defender to step in. |
| 1:10.0 | They've already been appointed and very |
| 1:12.0 | capably protect Nick Reiner's interests as he moves forward through the system. But be clear. |
| 1:20.6 | Be very, very clear about this. My team and I remain deeply, deeply committed to Nick Reiner and to his best interests. |
| 1:34.3 | So that's where I would call up. |
| 1:35.8 | The way. |
| 1:37.0 | I mean, there's a quote that we hadn't gotten to yet that I thought carried a lot of weight, |
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