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Reasonable Doubt

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Business, True Crime, Comedy

4.4 • 3.6K Ratings

🗓️ 4 January 2026

⏱️ 38 minutes

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Summary

Mark is joined by acclaimed trial lawyer Nicholas Rowley, who sits in as guest co-host. The two dig into a major Starbucks burn verdict, revisit the misunderstood McDonald’s hot coffee case, and break down how corporate narratives distort public views of civil justice. The conversation also explores Rowley’s successful fight to raise California’s medical malpractice damages cap, his latest battle against Uber-backed liability limits, and why jury selection, honesty, and integrity remain the true backbone of the justice system.

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0:00.0	This is beyond a reasonable doubt with your hosts, Mark Garrigas and Gary Smith.
0:09.4	Well, I'm very delighted to have, not just because he's wearing a shirt that looks like it could come out of my closet, but because he's my little brother, longtime friend, the illustrious trial lawyer, Nick Rowley.
0:24.0	Nick, how are you?
0:24.9	Should I ask where you are or is that a state secret?
0:28.3	No, no, it's all right.
0:29.3	Nice to see you, brother.
0:30.6	And thanks for having me.
0:31.8	I'm here in Costa Rica.
0:33.7	Well, which I was just telling you before, I used to go there during college with a girlfriend and her family.
0:42.2	And back then, they used to brag about the fact that they had more teachers than law enforcement.
0:48.6	That was their claim to fame in Costa Rica.
0:51.4	I don't know if they still.
0:52.2	It's still the same.
0:53.0	Yeah, I've been coming down for 20 years now and just love it here.
0:56.8	Love the people, the climate, the energy, you know, just people are loving their kind.
1:04.6	There's no serious crime that you need to be afraid of. People are kind to one another here.
1:10.6	It's still a place where if you're broken
1:12.1	down on the side of the road, someone's going to stop and help you. And we've lost that in a
1:16.2	lot of places in this world. Speaking of helping people, I think I've got one of my favorite
1:22.4	closing arguments teed up this past year. Gary, do you have it there? If we can go to the video and then
1:29.2	I'll talk about it. You've heard the evidence. You've heard that it is Starbucks policy that
1:33.6	once their hands are off something, no matter how they hand it to somebody, it's their corporate
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