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The Bulwark Podcast

Barbara Slavin: Fire Under the Ashes

The Bulwark Podcast

The Bulwark

Politics, News, News Commentary

4.68.9K Ratings

🗓️ 8 November 2022

⏱️ 48 minutes

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Summary

Women's rights and hijab rules are at the center of widespread protests in Iran, but the demonstrations quickly evolved and are now the most serious threat to the regime in decades. Barbara Slavin joins Charlie Sykes on today's podcast. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

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0:33.2

Welcome to the Bullwork Podcast on Trellysights. It is election day. So just a quick heads up.

0:39.6

Really, nobody knows what's going to happen. So most of the punty today is going to be a little bit

0:43.8

like writing a bicycle as slowly as possible without falling off. So you're going to have hours

0:49.8

and hours and hours of fact free foes, certainty, you know, clashing with some wish casting.

0:56.0

There'll be lots and lots of speculation, occasional burst of hysteria, endless repetition.

1:02.4

And then about the late afternoon, sometime we'll get those exit polls,

1:07.3

which are certainly going to be BS, but which we are not going to be able to resist commenting on.

1:13.2

But you can safely ignore them. So given the fact that nobody knows anything,

1:18.3

and by the time many of you listen to this, you will be much smarter than us. I thought we'd do a

1:22.3

little bit of counter programming. We talk about something that I've been really embarrassed that I

1:26.5

haven't spent more time on. What's going on in Iran? Where, you know, we talk here about democracy being

1:32.8

on the ballot. Well, obviously human rights is at play around the world and perhaps no plays more

1:37.9

dramatically than the streets of Iran right now. So we are joined by Barbara Slavin, director of

1:43.1

the Future of Iran Initiative at the Atlantic Council, also a lecturer in international affairs at

1:48.4

George Washington University and the author of the book, bitter friends, bosom enemies, Iran,

1:55.3

the US, and the twisted path to confrontation. So happy election day, Barbara.

2:01.2

Thank you. Thank you. And I'm, you know, I'll take any excuse to talk about Iran, including

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