So, Ian, I can't hear any deep breathing from you, but I'm...

Oh, yeah.

Yes, I can.

Now, yesterday we both did the park run, didn't we?

Oh, did you do it too? All right.

I did it too, 5K, yeah.

My time was some 33 minutes.

What was yours?

Really? 33.

Oh, mine was 20.

Well, I can nearly double that, actually.

It was 44.

And I shouldn't be, I'm really going against the whole park run vibe to talk to you like that because the important thing is that you were out there doing it and as I actually said to you yesterday you were going faster than the person sitting on the sofa so well done brilliant job well that that is true it was completely humiliating though because I thought I was going to be last at one point because halfway round there were three people behind me

or three that I could see and then they all overtook me and then I overtook them and then they

overtook me and it wasn't actually being competitive I don't think on their part it certainly

wasn't mine and then we got we got almost to the line and so I overtook there's about I don't know

a 35 year old woman in front of me so I overtook her's about I don't know 35 year old woman in

front of me so I overtook her so I thought I was second last but it turned out that I

was sixth last because there were actually people behind us amazingly but it is my

excuse for the fact that I was much slower than you is obviously I'm three months

older than you and so that that's and

also you've had so much practice haven't you but 33 minutes I think is a really good time

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