Banned Together: SCOTUS Edition

See Something Say Something

Ahmed Ali Akbar

Society & Culture, Religion & Spirituality

4.8 • 550 Ratings

🗓️ 6 July 2018

⏱️ 43 minutes

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On a scale of 1-10, how much do you think our civil liberties have eroded this past month? These are the kind of things Ahmed worries about at night. So, he invited brother-in-law, ACLU lawyer, and real-life Supreme Court WINNER Nathan Freed Wessler and CUNY-CLEAR's Tarek Ismail on the show to help make sense of recent legal challenges around immigration and surveillance. Discussed in this ep: the Muslim ban, ICE separating children from their families, and Nate's landmark digital privacy case, Carpenter vs the United States.

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0:00.0	Hey everyone, I'm Amadale Yuckber, and this is See Something Say Something.
0:06.7	This week, we're going to be talking about the slate of legal challenges that have arisen over the past couple weeks around immigration and surveillance.
0:15.4	We've moved into this era where every part of our life is reflected in digital records, saved by some company somewhere.
0:22.1	And unsurprisingly, police love getting access to that data in investigations.
0:38.3	So, if you see something, you better, of the Supreme Court. Nothing at all. Nothing at all.
0:41.3	So I've been watching with a lot of interest,
0:43.3	a lot of the stuff coming out of the Supreme Court,
0:45.3	and the conversation on Twitter around our increasingly chaotic immigration policy.
0:52.3	And my favorite people to talk to about this kind of stuff is lawyers
0:55.9	who are on the front line of working these cases. And I happen to thankfully have a lot of friends
1:00.4	who I really trust and have done really groundbreaking work on this topic. So I decided to invite
1:06.2	two of them on to help me make sense of things. Also, side note, it is moving day, and we do not have access to our
1:13.6	regular studio. So that is why our audio quality is a little different. So joining me today is
1:19.9	Nathan Fried Wessler. Hi, Nate. Hi, Emmett. He is the father of my beautiful niece.
1:30.3	That is my greatest qualification.
1:32.2	He's not qualified in any other way.
1:37.2	No, he's also the staff attorney at the ACLU Speech, Privacy, and Technology Project.
1:44.1	And he recently argued and won a case in front of the Supreme Court, Carpenter versus the U.S. government. Is that the technical term? Did I say that right? Very close. Carpenter versus United States. Versus United States, whatever. I'm just, I'm not a lawyer. And we're very proud of him, and it's a very interesting and landmark case, which we're going to talk about. Welcome, Nate. Thanks so much. And we're also
2:00.9	joined by Tharq Ismail. Darik Ismail is a senior staff lawyer at the Clear Project at CUNY School of
2:05.7	Law. It focuses on Muslim, immigrant rights, Middle East and North African folks, and really
2:11.4	advocating for them. I've been to a few of their trainings that they do for Know Your Rights. They do
2:16.2	a lot of really good work in New York City.
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