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See Something Say Something

Banned Together — Part 2

See Something Say Something

Ahmed Ali Akbar

Society & Culture, Religion & Spirituality

4.8550 Ratings

🗓️ 1 February 2017

⏱️ 38 minutes

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Summary

Can the courts overturn President Trump's executive order? This episode, Ahmed talks with law professor Muneer Ahmad, who filed a lawsuit over the weekend challenging the immigration and travel ban.

They talk about the details of the lawsuit, why a federal judge issued a stay to halt deportations, and what the legal path forward is for overturning the ban.

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0:00.0

Hey guys, I'm Amadale Yuckber and this is See Something Say Something with another mini episode.

0:08.1

We've been talking to as many people about Donald Trump's immigration order over the past few days.

0:15.1

On Tuesday, I wanted to dig into how people are pushing back.

0:18.4

So we talked to some lawyers about protesting and organizing

0:21.3

in the scene at the multiple airports across the country. This episode, we're going to get more

0:26.2

into the nuts and bolts of litigation and challenging the Muslim ban in court. And we're going to

0:32.2

talk to a professor and lawyer who was instrumental in pushing back in the courts against Donald Trump's Muslim

0:39.7

band.

0:42.0

If you see something, you better, you better say something.

0:49.9

Nothing at all, nothing at all.

0:54.5

I brought on Munir Ahmad, a clinical law professor at Yale Law School, who teaches at the

1:00.4

worker and immigrant rights advocacy clinic, which helped file the initial lawsuit against

1:05.7

Trump's executive order and was successful in getting the stay, which we'll talk about more of the details of

1:12.1

that because I don't fully understand that as somebody who's not a lawyer. So, Manir, thanks for

1:16.5

joining us and helping make sense of this thing. Yeah, it's great to be with you. You're in New Haven

1:21.9

right now, right? Yeah. Cool. So tell us about the lawsuit. What's happened so far? Obviously, things change quickly, and, you know, it's been moment to moment. But at the moment of this recording, can you give us a like sort of a timeline of what you've done so far and what you're looking to do?

1:39.9

Sure. Well, you're right. Things have moved very fast and they continue to change. And there's a lot to keep track of because we're not just looking at what's going on at one place or one airport. It's really all across the country and really all across the world. So let me maybe walk you through what happened starting on Friday night and the way

2:06.0

the litigation unfolded. And then I can kind of come to where we are now. So hearing you say that,

2:11.0

I just want to say one thing, which is like, were you prepared for this? You guys responded so

2:15.0

quickly. It was kind of amazing. or was it like totally on the fly,

2:19.3

you know? You know, it was somewhere in between. I think there were a lot of people who

2:25.1

didn't just take Trump seriously, but took him literally during the campaign when he said he

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