Hello and welcome to The Spectator podcast. I'm Isabel Hardman. This week, Tory infighting comes to the four,

but could the party be even more divided than we thought? Meanwhile, across the pond, Donald Trump

continues to cause backlash. Is he to blame for an ideological shift to the left in the country?

Thankfully, our own head of state isn't on Twitter, though that doesn't stop people speculating

about Her Majesty's personal opinions. Is the Queen a Eurosceptic?

First, the Conservative Party is taking up arms against itself. This week, back when plotting came to the

fore with the Brexiteer group, the European Research Group, openly discussing Mrs May's demise

and Boris Johnson dominating the headlines. But James Forsyth reveals in this week's cover piece

that there are more fractures in the party than merely a Chekker's Brexiteer divide. He joins me

now to explain the complex situation,

together with Paul Goodman, former Tory MP and editor of Conservative Home. James, can you just

briefly explain in a simple fashion the divisions that are racking the Tories at the moment?

Well, it's tempting to say that there's a pro-checkers faction and an anti-checkers

faction. In fact, there are multiple pro-checkers factions, some which actually aren't very

pro-checkers at all, and there are multiple anti-checkers factions. But to start with the pro-checkers

faction, I'd say there are three groups in favour of chequers. The smallest of those is the group

concentrated around the Prime Minister who actually think that a deal, something quite close to this,

can be done with the EU, that the proposals have a kind of inherent merit in their own right,

and that despite lots of evidence to the contrary, it is actually negotiable.

But ultimately, the member states will push Barnier to engage with it far more than he has so far.

Then there is the second group who like checkers because they think that it is beginning to sweep away the obstacles to further concessions to the EU

and ultimately getting to an economicions to the EU and ultimately getting

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