Bane Trade, KD Trade, Draft Boards

Hollinger & Duncan NBA Show - NBA Basketball Podcast

John Hollinger and Nate Duncan

Sports, Basketball

4.6 • 853 Ratings

🗓️ 18 June 2025

⏱️ 64 minutes

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Summary

John and Nate react to the shocking Desmond Bane trade from both Memphis and Orlando’s perspectives. They also assess where Kevin Durant might end up, and what kind of return Phoenix could realistically expect. Then it’s time for their final draft board discussion before the big day, including Cooper Flagg’s long-term upside, the rest of the top-5, and some of John’s favorite sleepers. What to make of Memphis trading Desmond Bane and what it says about their direction. 0:01 Why the trade is a big bet by Orlando on Franz, Paolo, and their defensive identity. 13:33 What Kevin Durant’s value is and which teams could plausibly trade for him. 18:13 Could Minnesota, Miami, or the Clippers be realistic suitors? 22:53 How Cooper Flagg compares to top past prospects and how he fits in Dallas. 29:54 Evaluating Dylan Harper and his unorthodox jumper. 35:00 V.J. Edgecombe’s unique strengths and concerns. 39:29 Ace Bailey’s upside and unpredictability. 43:01 John’s surprise top-5 pick: Kon Knueppel. 46:36 The electric upside and flaws of Jeremiah Fears. 50:00 Some of John’s favorite sleepers: Collin Murray-Boyles, Noa Essengue, and Carter Bryant. 54:10 Tre Johnson’s scoring chops and limitations. 58:26 Khaman Maluach. 1:01:33

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0:00.0	All right, welcome on to a pre-draft edition of Hollinger and Duncan.
0:04.1	John and I got to go through some of the main guys at the top of the draft to give our opinions on them.
0:09.5	But I haven't talked to you since the big Desmond Bain trade, which certainly took me quite by surprise.
0:18.3	What did you think of it?
0:19.0	It was really interesting because these two teams theoretically are in roughly the same
0:23.0	spot, right? They're defense-first teams that are still young but not like super young
0:30.1	anymore with their two best players hitting max contracts, basically, and they're trying to
0:37.0	figure out how to construct the rest of their
0:38.9	rosters and they came to completely opposite answers on the value of Desmond Bain toward that
0:44.6	construction. Yeah now one of them is on his current contract. Yes. Because that's the key element of it.
0:50.8	Yeah. Well, one of them is in the east and one of them is in the West. I was talking about this
0:54.4	with Danny, actually. I, if you had to give me either Franz and Polo to add Bain to or Jha and Jaron, I probably
1:03.6	like Franz and Paulo as a foundation, especially given how much younger they are. Well, I would say yes,
1:10.3	given the last two years of John Morant, especially.
1:13.3	Yeah.
1:13.9	Yeah.
1:14.4	And John is just a tough fit, too, as we've talked about so many times, like Steph Curry and Isaiah Thomas are really the only two small guards to ever be the best player on a championship team.
1:24.7	It's a job just brings a lot of defensive issues,
1:27.6	and it's just harder for really small guys
1:29.5	to perform at the highest levels.
1:32.3	So, and, you know,
1:33.2	his best year was three years ago, too.
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