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Trust me, do you trust me?

Trust me, I'm like a smart person. I've never lied to you. I've never had lied.

If you think that one person has all the answers, don't!

Welcome to TrustMe, the podcast about cult, extreme belief, and the abuse of power from two mental gymnasts who've actually experienced it, I am low of long.

And I am Megan Elizabeth.

And this week is part two of our interview with Mentalist and Magician Banachak.

Today we're going to talk about how he exposed a scam by the televangelist and debunked faith healer Peter Popoff in the 80s,

why he fights against pseudoscience and the difference between critical thinking and skepticism and why choosing the former is so important.

He performs a little mentalism trick on us.

That he does, and it's fun, and God, I don't know why I have this lingering feeling like there's something in this episode that I didn't say, but you know what?

Maybe I said it all, maybe embracing that uncertainty is what I need to do.

Is that what you're learning in your OCD therapy?

Yes, sir.

Me too.

So I've copied a lot off of two therapist places now.

We have the same guy who does our neurofeedback.

I don't do that anymore.

I still sometimes do.

He misses you.

But then I also went to the same OCD center as you, and we do have different therapists for that.

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