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Foul Play: A Historical True Crime Podcast

Baltimore: Sister Cathy's MKUltra Survivor 2

Foul Play: A Historical True Crime Podcast

Shane L. Waters, Wendy Cee, Gemma Hoskins

True Crime, History, Society & Culture

4.5 β€’ 992 Ratings

πŸ—“οΈ 4 September 2019

⏱️ 37 minutes

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Summary

In an exceptionally stirring episode, Shane and Gemma sit with Lynn, a survivor whose life story challenges the very bedrock of trust we place in our institutions. Lynn's chilling account of abuse spans the gamut from family betrayal to being a pawn in what she describes as a government-sanctioned nightmare. Her testimony aligns with the darkest aspects of Father Maskell's legacy, intertwining with the murky depths of the MKUltra program.

Lynn articulates a tale of survival against unspeakable acts of physical, psychological, and sexual torture. She divulges the cruel reality of being manipulated into dissociation, a forced fragmentation of self, where coded triggers would bring about alternate personalities. This, she posits, was part of a grander scheme of control and exploitation, suggesting her victimization in a program of creating 'amnestic slaves.' Lynn's recall of events and the notable figure, Dr. Richter, whom viewers may recognize from "The Keepers," adds a significant layer of credibility to her story.

The conversation takes a grave turn as it touches upon Lynn's assertion that high-profile entities like NASA were involved in the orchestration of these abuses. The hosts, sensitive yet inquisitive, work through through Lynn's experiences, drawing parallels with historical claims of MKUltra's objectives. Shane and Gemma also provide a necessary context, referencing corroborative testimonies from previous episodes that paint a broader picture of systematic abuse and cover-up.
This episode does not only recount a personal history but also poses unsettling questions about the integrity of authority and the extent of its transgressions. It's an exploration into the heart of darkness where the supposed safe havens of society and government are implicated in acts of profound evil.

Listeners are invited to process this narrative alongside Shane, Gemma, and the Foul Play team, to reflect deeply and visit itsfoulplay.com for further discussion and exploration of this grave matter. Here, the conversation extends into advocacy, awareness, and the search for truth, as the series continues to examine the tangled skeins of power, control, and the cost of silence. Our Sponsors: * Check out Kensington Publishing: https://www.kensingtonbooks.com * Check out Mood and use my code SHANE for a great deal: https://mood.com Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brands Privacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

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0:00.0

I'm going to Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, There's Cheryl Hersha and her sister. They were put through military training, weapons training.

0:33.8

I was a terrible marksman.

0:35.3

I'm so glad I was a terrible marksman.

0:37.1

They train assassins.

0:39.2

I know that's, it sounds like it's coming out of a movie,

0:41.8

but I can explain I can explain how you do that I can

0:47.3

with me if you take a young child and four or five times a year he strapped that child in a chair and torture them, you're going to get that child to do pretty much what you want.

0:57.5

You have used a few words that are new to us and our listeners, and I'm going to let you deal with the words in order you want to but you've talked about

1:08.0

Contractors and you've talked about trigger words

1:18.4

Yes, he talked about trigger words and you've talked about handlers and I know from your perspective those have different meanings than they would to me.

1:23.1

So could you explain what contractors and handlers are?

1:28.0

So when I say it's just the way they set up these programs,

1:31.6

they can be highly compartmentalized. You don't want one

1:35.8

person working for you to know the whole scope of what's happening. And that's

1:41.7

documented. We know that from the MK

1:44.3

culture documents. They had a lot of civilians that they would

1:47.6

contract just regular old academics working in institutions and

1:51.9

they would give them one very small segment of a procedure to do experiments with and that wouldn't hurt anybody.

1:59.0

You could carry that out and even publish it. But it would be some piece of another procedure that then they would go and use in a torture lapse.

2:09.5

So by contractor, a lot of the people carrying out this work were just that.

2:15.0

They could be short-term contractors as opposed to personnel who were higher up following individual subjects through various facilities and

2:24.6

watching the progress like my person at NASA. Of course there are people higher

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