Baltimore: Sister Cathy and MKUltra's Children

Foul Play: A Historical True Crime Podcast

Shane L. Waters, Wendy Cee, Gemma Hoskins

History, Society & Culture, True Crime

4.5 • 992 Ratings

🗓️ 11 September 2019

⏱️ 14 minutes

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Summary

In the wake of the profound and unsettling revelations of the previous episode, this episode finds Shane poring over a document that pulls back the curtain on the chilling practices of the CIA's MKUltra program. This week, Shane brings to light a redacted CIA document from 1951, detailing experiments on two young girls, a stark reminder of the program's reach and the innocence it consumed.

With a solemn warning for the potentially triggering content ahead, Shane reads excerpts that describe the manipulation of these children into a trance-like state, with the grim objective of achieving complete amnesia post-experimentation. This procedure, devoid of any sexual context within the document itself, nonetheless hints at the violation of mind and body, a subject that bears heavy on the soul, especially for those who have endured similar traumas.

This episode is an essential piece of the complex puzzle that is Sister Cathy's story and the broader narrative of abuse and power. It is a painful but necessary confrontation with the past, providing irrefutable evidence of the extent to which institutions have gone to wield control over the vulnerable.

For those moved by the broadcast, Shane and Gemma extend an invitation to join the ongoing conversation and find support at itsfoulplay.com. Here, the community comes together to confront these hard truths and advocate for the survivors whose voices have been suppressed for too long. As we continue to brave the shadows of history, we remain dedicated to uncovering and understanding the full scope of these injustices. Our Sponsors: * Check out Kensington Publishing: https://www.kensingtonbooks.com * Check out Mood and use my code SHANE for a great deal: https://mood.com Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brands Privacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

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0:00.0	I'm Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, During last week's conversation with MK Ultra Survivor, Lynn, we discussed briefly some of the documents
0:40.9	the CIA released that touch slightly on their psychological testing done under
0:46.7	MK Ultra. What I am about to read to you is a redacted CIA document from 1951.
0:54.0	Two children were used in the experiment.
0:57.0	And the document explains both are young girls.
1:00.8	Although this document does not talk about sexual testing, please be advised that what you are about to hear may be triggering if you are a survivor.
1:10.0	This document is proof of one type of testing the CIA did on children involving being in a trance state and ensuring that their subjects had complete amnesia.
1:22.0	The document we will be posting had complete amnesia.
1:27.0	The document we will be posting on the discussion group on Facebook. So please, come find it and join in on the discussion. Two files, subject, S.I. and H experimentation, 25th of September 1951.
1:50.0	On the 25th of September 1951, the writer conducted S.I. and H experimentation with subjects.
2:07.0	In view of the successful experimentation of Tuesday, the 18th of September 1951,
2:12.0	it was decided to continue experiments along more or less related lines during this session.
2:19.0	However, prior to actually beginning the more complex experiments, several simple post-H
2:26.3	were worked with both of the girls participating. In this connection, it is interesting to note that whereas subject A was capable on each test tried of producing the desired post H effect.
2:42.0	Subject B was unable to do so.
2:45.0	No explanation was offered for this, but it should be noted for the record
2:51.0	that official one and the writer did not make continuous for the post H tests. tests. The first major experiment of the evening was set up as follows
3:07.0	without previous explanation to either child.
3:11.0	Both subjects were placed in a very deep trance state,
3:16.2	and while in this state the following instructions were given.
3:20.8	Subject was instructed that when she wakened she was to proceed to the room she was
3:27.7	told that while there she would receive a telephone call from an individual whom she would only know as Joe.
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