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Foul Play: A Historical True Crime Podcast

Baltimore: Sister Cathy and MKUltra Doubts 2

Foul Play: A Historical True Crime Podcast

Shane L. Waters, Wendy Cee, Gemma Hoskins

History, True Crime, Society & Culture

4.5 β€’ 992 Ratings

πŸ—“οΈ 7 August 2019

⏱️ 45 minutes

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Summary

In part two of a revealing two-part dialogue, Shane and Gemma engage with Dr. Colin Ross to explore a controversial question: Could Father Maskell have been a participant in the CIA's MKUltra program? Dr. Ross, whose expertise in dissociation and trauma-related disorders is recognized worldwide, brings a wealth of knowledge to this enigmatic inquiry. His extensive research and clinical experience provide the groundwork for a discussion on the notorious MKUltra program and its potential connections to the abuse allegations surrounding Father Maskell.

As the founder and President of The Colin A. Ross Institute for Psychological Trauma, Dr. Ross has a deep understanding of how extreme influence, such as that exerted in MKUltra's mind control experiments, can affect memory and perception. This episode does not shy away from examining into the depths of such topics, examining the disturbing intersections of psychological manipulation and authority. With Shane and Gemma at the helm, the conversation works through through historical data, personal accounts, and professional insights, piecing together the possibilities of Maskell's involvement in the program and its implications on the memories of those he is accused of victimizing.

The dialogue extends beyond the mere facts of the case, probing into the lasting impact on the victims and the broader community. As the first part of this conversation unfolds, listeners are invited to consider the breadth of the MKUltra program's reach and the tragic possibility that the abuse may have been part of a larger, more sinister plot.

For those stirred by this episode, more information and ways to engage with the ongoing conversation can be found at itsfoulplay.com. This platform serves not only as a repository for the series' investigations but also as a space for learning, healing, and advocacy. We dare to question the narrative set before us and seek answers in the murky waters of history and human memory. Our Sponsors: * Check out Kensington Publishing: https://www.kensingtonbooks.com * Check out Mood and use my code SHANE for a great deal: https://mood.com Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brands Privacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

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0:00.0

I'm Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, How does LSD fit into the program? I know you mentioned LSD a few minutes ago.

0:30.0

One of my recent papers is called, I think it's called LSD experiments by the US Army.

0:36.4

And it's a detailed history of, so the Army, the Air Force, the Navy, and the CIA all did

0:41.4

LSD experiments.

0:43.3

And these included under MK Ultra and related programs.

0:47.4

And basically what they were doing is trying to figure out

0:49.7

if LSD could be used in interrogations, to soften somebody up so that they would give you

0:55.8

information and some of the experiments this is in the documents very in

1:00.8

detail they explicitly say that they were trying to either erase memories or implant false memories.

1:06.0

In the 1975 General Counsel for the US Army at a Senate committee hearing

1:13.0

released a list of about 125 different compounds

1:18.0

that the Army had tested for mind control purposes,

1:21.0

certainly many different compounds including B Z, letter B,

1:26.2

which was kind of super LSD that put you on a acid trip. The movie Jacob's ladder opens with a combat scene in Vietnam,

1:36.1

and the soldiers are like completely tripped out and just looking around and completely disoriented. And in the course of the movie it comes up that they

1:44.7

had been d z which is a fictional movie but has been out in the public domain for many

1:50.9

decades well is it only tip the iceberg we ask some for many decades. Well,

1:52.5

LST is only tip of the iceberg.

1:53.8

We asked some of the survivors if they had questions

1:57.6

that they would like us to discuss with you.

1:59.4

Jimma, I'll let you ask the first one.

2:01.4

Okay, and before I do this,

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