Baltimore: Sister Cathy and MKUltra Doubts 1
Foul Play: A Historical True Crime Podcast
Shane L. Waters, Wendy Cee, Gemma Hoskins
4.5 β’ 992 Ratings
ποΈ 31 July 2019
β±οΈ 26 minutes
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Summary
As the founder and President of The Colin A. Ross Institute for Psychological Trauma, Dr. Ross has a deep understanding of how extreme influence, such as that exerted in MKUltra's mind control experiments, can affect memory and perception. This episode does not shy away from examining into the depths of such topics, examining the disturbing intersections of psychological manipulation and authority. With Shane and Gemma at the helm, the conversation works through through historical data, personal accounts, and professional insights, piecing together the possibilities of Maskell's involvement in the program and its implications on the memories of those he is accused of victimizing.
The dialogue extends beyond the mere facts of the case, probing into the lasting impact on the victims and the broader community. As the first part of this conversation unfolds, listeners are invited to consider the breadth of the MKUltra program's reach and the tragic possibility that the abuse may have been part of a larger, more sinister plot.
For those stirred by this episode, more information and ways to engage with the ongoing conversation can be found at itsfoulplay.com. This platform serves not only as a repository for the series' investigations but also as a space for learning, healing, and advocacy. We dare to question the narrative set before us and seek answers in the murky waters of history and human memory. Our Sponsors: * Check out Kensington Publishing: https://www.kensingtonbooks.com * Check out Mood and use my code SHANE for a great deal: https://mood.com Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brands Privacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy
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| 0:00.0 | I'm Oh, Today, Jim and I are joined with Dr. Colin Ross. Thank you Dr. Ross for joining us. |
| 0:31.0 | Yeah, my pleasure. Thanks for the International Society for the Study of Trauma and Dissociation. |
| 0:44.3 | I also noticed that you continue to publish in the American Journal of Psychiatry. |
| 0:49.0 | The first type of discussion I'd like to have with you is just to have you tell me about the work that you do at the Ross Institute for Psychological Trauma in Dallas as well as the Forest |
| 1:00.4 | Few psychiatric hospital in Grand Rapids, Michigan. |
| 1:03.7 | I consult the three hospitals. |
| 1:05.2 | There's also Delalmo Hospital in Los Angeles. |
| 1:08.4 | They're all within the same hospital system. |
| 1:10.5 | Most of my work is in the Dallas area hospital, which is where I live. But I do some in-person |
| 1:17.5 | trips and also video conference groups at the other two locations. Probably about, it varies, 25 to 35 percent of people in the programs have |
| 1:26.1 | dissociative identity disorder equals the ID all have complex serious serious, severe trauma, almost always starting in childhood. |
| 1:37.2 | And we provide like standard kind of medication management that happens in any psychiatric hospital, |
| 1:42.0 | but our main thing is a loss of |
| 1:43.9 | psychotherapy. I saw that you produced several documentaries as well as |
| 1:49.0 | educational films about this issue of identity disorder as you mentioned it's shortly known as the ID. |
| 1:56.0 | Can you tell me about what the ID is as well as the differences between |
| 2:01.0 | repression and dissociation? |
| 2:03.0 | Okay, it's good thing we've got about six hours available to explain all of that. |
| 2:07.0 | So basically, the ID has been around for a long time, like most mental health problems, either not recognized or with different names. |
| 2:18.0 | So in the sort of last 20 years of the 19th century. |
| 2:22.9 | It was sometimes called double personality, |
| 2:25.8 | sometimes double conscience, |
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