On this episode of the Dad Tired podcast we were talking video games now listen I'm not a

gamer you may not be a gamer so you may be tempted to completely skip over this episode entirely but

I promise you you're probably gonna get something really valuable out of it.

We're talking things like do video games contribute to the gun violence we're seen in our

country?

What boundaries do we put around technology for our kids?

How does the pornography or how the pornography industry has crept in through

video game systems and all kinds of other really fascinating topics.

I've invited my friend Gay Patillo, who's a co-host of the podcast Married to The Games to join me on this episode.

It was a lot of fun.

I think you're going to get a lot out of it, so take a listen. All right, Gabe, well, thanks so much for hanging out with us today.

Tell us who you are and what you're up to these days, man.

Man, I'm a singer and a podcast host and a voiceover artist, but before all all that I'm a husband and father to three

beautiful kids and a lovely wife who holds it down while I'm on the road.

Yeah, and you're on the road a lot, right?

Like, what are you doing on the road?

I do a lot on the road.

I background sing for an artist named Toby Mac and we kind of do anywhere

between 80 to 115 shows a year depending on what's going on and so I sing I help produce the tours and

working with the opening acts and things like that so how, how long have you been doing that?

You know what's crazy is that somebody just asked me that the other day and I hadn't really thought about it.

It's been 17 years that I've been with Toby.

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