So it's a happy bank holiday.

It's also happy because Charlie Rowley is with.

I don't even know how to describe Charlie these days,

because once upon a time he would just walk into talk towers like this meek character fresh out of Whitehall.

Here he was, darkening our doorstep on a

regular basis with his pronouncements and opinions. And now you're on the team sheet here at

talk TV, talk TV, talk radio, talk. Well, I've only learned from the best, which is you,

Ian. Very kind. Very kind. Jeremy Carl claims that it's all his doing

I have to say which is yeah I have no struggling believing that he did say he's he's taught me

everything he knows but not everything I know but I'm delighted to be here so thank you for

having me indeed and we should throw in early. You're a massive lifelong Arsenal fan.

I am. So you smug swine, celebrating like a fool, which was essentially a city loss rather than an Arsenal win.

I like to define it like that. Well, I think they, I think they bottled it. Do you remember those bottles? Yes. Those bottles that were thrown at Arsenal for the last three years when we were always the bridesmaid and never the bride. And this year has been our, has been our year. Listen, it's only once every 22 years, so enjoy it. Yes, enjoy that moment. Listen, as a Chelsea fan, I gave up mid-season in thinking there was any silverware or accolade.

I even went to the FA Cup final last week now.

Which you should have won, by the way.

Yeah, 100%.

Yeah, 100%.

And it's great to be obviously an FA Cup final, but it wasn't the result that we needed.

But it could, I mean, that could have, but had City just nudged in, then, and Champions League

Final, still to be decided, of course, but had that all gone wrong, I mean, Arsenal could

have been taken right to the brink and lost out on every single thing.

But as it turns out, rather annoyingly, they haven't.

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