Bad Politics Poisons Science
Beg to Differ with Mona Charen
The Bulwark
4.6 • 1.3K Ratings
🗓️ 7 April 2025
⏱️ 66 minutes
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| 0:00.0 | Welcome to the Affair Podcast. I'm Anna Williamson. Now, if you don't know me, I'm a relationship |
| 0:07.1 | therapist, coach and TV personality. One in five people have admitted to having an affair. |
| 0:14.0 | Each episode features a different real-life affair story told by the people involved and offers |
| 0:20.1 | insights into the emotions, causes and consequences |
| 0:23.1 | of infidelity in today's world. Available to listen to on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Amazon Music, |
| 0:29.7 | or wherever you get your podcasts. |
| 0:36.9 | Thanks one and all for joining me today. I am delighted to welcome Atlantic staff writer Helen Lewis, joining us from Great Britain. Thanks so much for being here, Helen. |
| 0:49.1 | Thank you for having me. I've been a fan of your writing for quite some time. |
| 0:54.4 | You bring, first of all, a great deal of information, but also a calm detachment about some of the most contentious topics that royal our politics. |
| 1:07.0 | So, congrats to you for that. |
| 1:09.8 | I can't take full credit for that. I have a brilliant editor, Dante, who represses my natural instinct to be slightly snarky and mean and tries to turn me into a proper, you know, Atlantic. |
| 1:20.6 | The idea of the Atlantic is we have to conduct ourselves with the spirit of generosity, which doesn't come particularly naturally to me, but I'm working on it. |
| 1:30.0 | Well, great. Maybe we'll get glimpses of that in this conversation. So I also just want to get a |
| 1:37.5 | sense of where you grew up and how you got interested in the topics that you are. You're the |
| 1:42.6 | author of Difficult Women, |
| 1:49.0 | A History of Feminism and Eleven Fight. So tell us about your upbringing and what got you interested. |
| 1:55.4 | Sure. I grew up in the 80s and 90s in Worcester, which is a small city in the middle of England. |
| 2:00.0 | And I think it was an interesting place to live. It is a classic bellwether state. I'm for too long covering American politics, |
| 2:03.2 | sorry, a classic bellwether city and constituency. In that, the time I was growing up, |
| 2:09.0 | you know, it was conservative. And then it, in 1997, when Tony Blair came in, it switched |
| 2:14.0 | to being Labour. And then it was Labour all the way through until 2010 election, which was the first one that Labor lost, and it switched over to being David |
| 2:21.6 | Cameron's Conservatives. Then it stayed conservative all the way up until last year when |
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