Backcast: Late Summer Terrestrials, with Jenny Mayrell-Woodruff

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James Hathaway

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🗓️ 18 August 2025

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Summary

This episode was originally published on August 14th, 2018

This week I have the pleasure of interviewing Jenny Mayrell-Woodruff [40:26]—the Orvis-endorsed Freshwater Guide of the Year for 2018. Jenny has recently relocated to Montana to run a lodge on Rock Creek and she took time out of her very busy schedule to share her knowledge of late summer terrestrial fishing. It’s an educational podcast and a timely one.

In the Fly Box this week we explore a wide range of topics, as usual:

How to transition from small trout streams to big rivers.

Why do I keep missing fish when fishing mouse patterns at night?

Can I use perfection loops in the middle of my leader to add droppers?

What is the best way to touch up the blades of nippers?

How do I make my fly attract trout by its entry into the water?

What happens to Tricos when nighttime air temperatures don’t go below 70 degrees?

Do tippet rings wear out?

Can I use my Clearwater line for trout fishing?

Do you measure the cast length from your body or from the rod tip?

How do you prospect for trout in long, slow pools?

What do you do if a big trout runs downstream and the water is too deep to wade below it?

Transcript

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0:00.0	Hi, this is Jamie. I produced the Orvis Fly Fishing Guide podcast. I wanted to let you know about the new
0:04.6	Orvis Fly Fishing Video Podcast on iTunes. This week we're featuring a video on how to spot trout and
0:11.8	muddy water, but you're probably pretty good at that already, aren't you? You probably don't need it. I bet you do.
0:18.1	So go check it out, Orvis fly fishing video podcast and subscribe today.
0:23.1	And do us a favor while you're there and leave us a rating and a comment. It helps other viewers
0:27.2	find us and helps the podcast be successful. Thanks a lot. Talk to you soon. Today on the Orvis
0:33.6	Fly Fishing Guide podcast. In front of rocks, behind rocks, beside any structure at all,
0:39.7	and anything closer to the bank is also something good.
0:43.8	Hi, and welcome to the Orvis Fly Fishing Guide podcast. This podcast is being recorded on
0:50.4	August 10th, 2018. I just realized I haven't done a podcast since so long.
0:56.2	My damn day job's getting in the way of doing podcasts.
1:00.0	So I apologize.
1:01.3	Summer is a busy time, both at Orvis and with families and getting out fishing and all that stuff.
1:07.8	So I'll try to do more regular podcasts. You heard a little bit of my
1:14.9	interview with Jenny Mayo Woodruff. We're talking about summer fishing, specifically
1:21.8	summer terrestrials in this podcast. And Jenny is, is the Orvis and Doris guide of the year. And so it was an
1:33.0	honor and pleasure in, um, in talking to Jenny. Don't forget, um, if you have a question for the
1:39.5	podcast, you can give me a call at 802,362-8800.000 or you can send me an email at podcast at orvis.com.
1:54.2	Anyway, let's get into the flybox and answer some questions.
1:59.1	Hey, Tom, this is Thomas from the Black Hills in South Dakota.
2:02.3	So the streams around here are truly streams.
2:05.3	They're, you know, probably 30 to 40 foot wide at most, fairly shallow, a couple feet deep.
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