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The Cure for Chronic Pain with Nicole Sachs, LCSW

Back Pain Recovery, Inner Child Work, and "Breaking Out of the Man Box" with Coach Pete

The Cure for Chronic Pain with Nicole Sachs, LCSW

Nicole Sachs, LCSW

Alternative Health, Spirituality, Religion & Spirituality, Health & Fitness

4.92.8K Ratings

🗓️ 27 February 2026

⏱️ 63 minutes

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0:00.0

Welcome to the Cure for Chronic Pain podcast with me, Nicole Sacks. You are here.

0:14.0

Hello, everybody. How are you guys? It's Nicole. Welcome to my podcast, The Cure for Chronic Pain.

0:20.6

Here we are.

0:21.7

So happy to be here with you guys today.

0:24.2

Today I have a wonderful interview with Peter Heyman.

0:27.5

Peter is one of our breakaway coaches working one-on-one every day with people from all

0:32.8

around the world, helping them profoundly change their lives as they embrace this work, understand it, and need that kind of loving support as they move through it.

0:43.3

He also is an alumni of our Omega Institute retreat and will be back again this year, which is very exciting.

0:50.3

And his wife Lois is also a member of our community and actually was on this podcast a couple months ago.

0:58.0

You might have heard the episode Lois, living her best life in her 70s, totally eliminated her neck pain.

1:05.0

We all think that aging and the pains and symptoms and, you know, quote, breakdown of the body that happens within that

1:14.3

process is inevitable.

1:15.7

And I'm not saying that I can stop aging.

1:18.2

But I truly believe that so many people like Lois and Peter with structural pain, Lois had neck

1:25.8

pain, Peter had back pain, just find it to be, oh, well,

1:30.1

you know, I'm in my 70s, I guess this is my lot in life. And over and over, and with my own

1:35.5

mother, I see that it is not as inevitable as people think. Peter, like so many people who I meet in life, had terrible back pain, thought it was, you know, for the rest of his life.

1:50.2

And now he is free.

1:52.0

So we're going to talk to Peter about his personal journey, about his coaching journey, and about a topic that is really, really important to Lisa and me as we expand this community

2:03.3

around the world, which is how to help men, and I'll use this phrase that Peter uses,

2:09.7

break out of the man box.

2:12.3

Because, you know, just because this work is about feeling your feelings or about acknowledging your emotions or about getting softer inside with your inner child, it is as imperative for men as it is for women to do it because everyone deserves to come home to themselves and understand what has been motivating their repressive behaviors,

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