I'm Claire Fallon and I'm Emma Gray and this is Love to See It, an obsessively detailed

recap podcast about reality dating shows like The Bachelor and other pop culture that makes us laugh, cry, and curse the patriarchy.

We can't live with these shows and we can't live without them, but we can break down every juicy moment and unpack all the weird messages these shows send us about love, sex, and dating.

Welcome to Love to See It, a podcast about one hometown date, a little bit of mental, all,

and the upcoming feature film, and bloopers. Technically this was the mental episode of Gabby and Rachel's joint bachelor at season, but it ended up being just a grab bag of everything they haven't been able to fit into the other episodes.

So there's a lot to try to wrangle in this episode. Emma is frallicking through Europe right now. She will not be here today, but don't worry. I'm joined today to talk to this bulging bag of an episode by friend of the pod, Emmy award winning writer for last week tonight and incredible

culture bachelor recap or Ali Barthwell, Ali, thank you so much for being here. Thanks for having me. Oh, what an episode. I know when I always like be a little bad when someone ends up having to recap mental all because normally there's so much screaming.

Not that much screaming, but I don't know if it was an improvement. A lot of listening and gurney like learning and growing. I think a lot of learning. Yeah, a lot of just really taking things to heart and nodding and like.

Taking each other as role models. So very wholesome, super boring.

But we start live on the soundstage. We're here with a full audience on the set. But first some unfinished business because we forgot to show Rachel's hometown with even last week.

So rude. They truly are just like sorry we forgot about even can we just squeeze you in here. I would have preferred if they had a Gabby hometown episode and a Rachel hometown episode and just done it into nights.

Like each episode had enough drama to sustain it that now we have to punt one person to the top of the mental all.

Yeah, they tried to fit it all into one bag and then there was too much and it got really messy and it was slipping out of the top. They're like we'll just close this bag off and we'll get a tiny little back for the last little bit.

It's not like well thought through portion.

No, not at all.

And so even truly does feel like an afterthought it doesn't fit in with the material of this episode at all. And it it is in Salem, Massachusetts. So of course it is witchcraft theme Jesse.

Just make a lot of jokes during this live special that don't land.

It's spooky season. We're out here in spooky season for even.

For Jesse is like I'm not going to give anything away, but it isn't it's cursed and everyone's like what he just means that they're in Salem.

Yeah.

They are in the catch tourist witchcraft capital of the world and yeah, the spooky Halloween music is playing.

There were a lot of dramatic thunks and like jump stairs.

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