I'm Claire Fallon and I'm Emma Gray and this is Love to See It, an obsessively detailed

recap podcast about the bachelor and other pop culture that makes us laugh, cry and curse

the patriarchy. We can't live with these shows and we can't live without them, but we

can break down every juicy moment and unpack all the weird messages these shows send us

about love, sex and dating.

Welcome to Love to See It, a podcast about high maintenance females and the men who

generously tolerate them. Or go on the bachelor to avoid them because Michelle is special.

She's different. She's like not like those other girls. The Miami girls. You know what

I mean. You all know exactly what I mean. Here to discuss this particular brand of unruly

females with us is new friend of the pod author of Cultish and co-host of the Sounds

Like a Cult podcast, Amanda Montel. Thanks for joining us. Thanks for having me. I have

already so many thoughts. Good. Good. We're going to get to all of them. All of us, I'm

sure, have a lot of thoughts and feelings about this episode, specifically about some men,

like maybe Chris S or Martin or both of them, but look, we'll get to them. First, we have

to celebrate Minneapolis because that is where our gang is headed in this episode. This

is truly a show about Minneapolis now. The men are leaving Indian Wells. They're going

to leave that drama in the resort where it belongs. Martin is so excited to go to the Midwest

that he walks out of his room on his hand. Martin is just constantly trying to remind

Michelle and us the viewers at home that he can do stuff upside down. We get it, Martin.

You can do a flip. It gets the more we see it, the less impressed I am. I can barely do

a summer sult. So I'm mesmerized. Michelle, meanwhile, has been away from Minnesota

for like 17 days and she's got the shakes. She can't handle it. She's in withdrawal. She

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