I'm Claire Fallon and I'm Emma Gray and this is Love to See It, an obsessively detailed

recap podcast about the bachelor and other pop culture that makes us laugh, cry and curse

the patriarchy. We can't live with these shows and we can't live without them, but we

can break down every juicy moment and unpack all the weird messages these shows send us

about love, sex and dating.

Welcome to Love to See It, a podcast that is now exclusively about shrimp and hot tubs.

Who ate the shrimp? Who was in the hot tub when the shrimp were offered? Sometime in the

next two hours we will uncover these answers.

This is a true crime pod and it's episode four of Clayton's Journey to Find Love. Here

to discuss all the small crustaceans, the NFL tie-ins, the sealous country bands and of

course all of the drama is Kate Casey, host of the podcast Reality Life. Kate, thanks

for joining us. Oh my gosh, thank you so much. I had you guys on my show and I laughed so

hard the tears were falling out of my eyeballs. I love them. I was crying.

So let's get into it. A lot is going on right now. We're still in the midst of the early

season villain portion of this season. We're still just mostly talking about Shane and

how much all the women hate her. That is exactly what is happening when we open this episode.

It's the morning of the Rose ceremony which we did not have last week and the women are

just sitting around talking shit about Shane and worrying that their cocktail party is

going to be ruined once again by Clayton trying to litigate this drama which at this point

is mostly between Shane and Elizabeth. And sweet Gabby, she's just like I don't think

he would drag everyone into this drama because then we wouldn't have a cocktail party and

he would never risk not having a cocktail party. Has she met Clayton? Like Clayton has

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