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🗓️ 30 November 2025
⏱️ 72 minutes
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Hi BA Fam - I hope you had the loveliest, peaceful Thanksgiving week and weekend. I will be back with a brand new Brown Table this Weds, and I am recording new BA Q&A episodes as well! So please submit any questions to [email protected] or DM me on IG @brownambitionpodcast.
In the meantime, enjoy this rewind episode of my conversation with THEE incredible Cebo Campbell, a creative director, author and entrepreneur who wrote the bestselling novel The Sky Full of Elephants. SFOE was my first-ever Brown Ambition Book Club Pick of 2025, and if you haven't had a chance to experience it yet, please grab a copy!
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| 0:00.0 | This is an IHeart podcast. |
| 0:02.5 | Guaranteed Human. |
| 0:04.3 | You have to understand that the majority of the time that black Americans is spent in this country, |
| 0:11.2 | it's been spent on the side of being an other. |
| 0:14.3 | And it still is today. |
| 0:16.1 | And it's important for someone to understand what the othering feels like |
| 0:20.5 | so that they can have |
| 0:21.9 | compassion for someone else. You can get into the complexities of the stories and the complexity |
| 0:26.4 | of the individual characters and everything they're going through. Ultimately, it's like, |
| 0:30.5 | listen, this is what it feels like. And if you look at that book and you go, it makes me |
| 0:35.4 | uncomfortable, understand that that discomfort is what other people are feeling. When you aren't recognizing book and you go, it makes me uncomfortable, understand that that discomfort |
| 0:37.7 | is what other people are feeling when you aren't recognizing them in their context and |
| 0:42.4 | what's really going on in the country. |
| 0:49.2 | Hey, VA fam. |
| 0:50.5 | I am, honestly, what an amazing idea I had to create a podcast where I can just get |
| 0:56.7 | incredible people to talk to me and people whose work I have gotten to enjoy. And this is the |
| 1:04.0 | first time I feel like, I don't think I've had an author of a fiction novel. We do lots of |
| 1:10.6 | author interviews at Brown Ambition, B.A. FAM. You know, |
| 1:12.8 | we do because we love our career and our finance books. But I am such a fiction fan. I mean, |
| 1:20.6 | my guilty secret as a personal finance and negotiation expert is that the majority of what I read has nothing to do with |
| 1:29.3 | business and finance. It is escapism. It is science fiction. It is fantasy, little romance. I love |
| 1:39.1 | books. They are so especially at a time like this crucial as like an escape route from reality sometimes. |
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