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Hey, this is Peter Kafka, back from CES, where I saw a bunch of you guys.

Thanks for saying hello.

Thanks for telling me you like listening to Recode Media.

I love hearing it.

A quick note about today's podcast. I recorded this about a week ago with Dan Premack from Axios. He's great. This is a very good podcast. Just one timing note when we recorded this, we were speculating about whether companies would want to emulate the Spotify direct listing IPA. We talk about that at length. Since we've recorded this, news is broken,

that Slack is probably going to do that. So just so you know, we're not in a total bubble. We're aware of what's going on. That's enough of me talking. You should hear Dan talking to me. It's much better. All right. Enjoy the show. This is Recode Media with Peter Cofka. That is me. I'm part of the Vox Media Podcast Network, talking to you from New York City at our headquarters here.

I'm here with Dan Premack. Pramak. I just think of you as Dan, the guy I read forever. That's fine. That works. Thanks for coming, man. Thanks for having me. I do not see you nearly enough. So thank you for coming. I know. This is a really impressive setup. I was in the Vox offices years ago and they did not look like this. Yeah, it's clean, it's vacuum. That's a fake plant. Oh, it's nice. There's a video feed here for reasons I don't understand. I don't either, but I can see myself. It's exciting. Thanks for coming. You are one of my favorite reporters. Oh, that's kind of you to say. That's the podcast. And now you're apparently going to rip me to shreds. That's just like buttering me up.

No, no.

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