I won't tell you that it's gonna be okay.

I won't tell you that it's going to be okay.

And welcome to another episode of Bakari Sellers podcast.

Today we have an amazing guest.

She's smarter than everybody in this room, including Donnie and myself,

but none other than Sarah Fisher.

How are you?

Hey, I'm doing well.

Thanks for having me.

So look, we start each one of our shows the same way,

which is to have our guest walk us through the

arc of their careers and talk to us about your various career stops and talk to us

about your beat now it's something that I check daily call Axios.

You are very kind.

Thank you so much.

I started out in sales, selling media, so selling advertising,

working in the early days at a company called Politico at trying to figure out a subscription strategy.

And I've sold a bunch of different types of formats, whether it's print, digital, some audio.

And I always wanted to be a reporter,

but it's kind of hard to break through.

And so I got lucky when the folks at Politico

moved over to Start Axios,

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