You are listening to The Darren O'Lean Show.

I'm Darren.

I spent the last 20 years devoted to improving health, protecting the environment, and finding

ways to live a more sustainable life.

In this podcast, I have honest conversations with people that inspire me.

I hope that through their knowledge and unique perspectives, they'll inspire you too.

We talk about all kinds of topics, from amping up your diets and improving your well-being

to the mind-blowing stories behind the human experience and the people that are striving

to save us and our incredible planet.

We even investigate some of life's fatal conveniences, you know, those things that we

are told might be good for us, but totally aren't.

So here's to making better choices and the small tweaks in your life that amount to

big changes for you and the people around you and the planet.

Let's do this.

This is my show, The Darren O'Lean Show.

Hey everybody, welcome to Show This Is Darren O'Lean.

This is The Darren O'Lean Podcast.

I'm stoked for my next guest, El McPherson.

She has successfully been a model for the last 40 years, 40.

I grew up in the 70s, 80s, and 90s for sure, and she was huge in the 90s.

I still think she has a record of five covers for Sports Illustrated, and maybe perhaps

what you don't know is that she's been an incredible entrepreneurial person.

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