On this episode of Ab Talk, we say goodbye to a big chunk of the passenger 747 fleet.

One airline is bringing a 747 back from the desert.

One airplane caught fire in Shanghai and our resident numbers expert Gavin Wuerbelov joins us

to discuss some pretty dismal numbers coming out across the industry.

Hello and welcome to episode 90 of Av Talk.

I am Ian Petchenick here as always with...

Jason Rabinewitzen.

Hello Ian, how are you and how is your summer?

Hello, Jason, I am doing well.

My summer has been such as it is. It got hot and then we all complained about the heat and now it'll stay hot and we'll continue to complain about the heat and now it'll stay hot and we'll continue to complain about the heat and then it'll get less hot and we'll complain about something else.

Probably the cold? I mean, eventually, but I look forward to the cold.

Wow you're in the right place in Chicago then. I am a cold person. I like I do not like heat because you could you can only take off so many layers.

I mean if you're cold you can just put on another later.

That's what I always say, but you take that to an extreme in Chicago that I really don't like.

Well I don't know what to tell you. But I'm looking forward to not not walking outside and needing a new shirt immediately.

Yes, so apparently New York is now a subtropical climate apparently that we've shifted to that. Our summers are hot and humid enough where we have

pretty bad thunderstorms rather regularly in the evenings here and typically that would probably do bad very bad things to air

traffic in the New York area in the Northeast but these days it's barely a blip so a minor annoyance unfortunately still yeah yeah I mean

that is something something else I wanted to ask you about is I heard you

ran out of ketchup recently.

Oh, did Andrew put you up to this?

No one has put me up to this.

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