Hello and welcome to episode 362 of AvTalk. I am Heem Petchnik, here as always with...

Jason Rabinowitz. Hello, Ian. How's it going? Hello, Jason. It's going. We're still upright, which is, I think, saying something at this point.

How are you, sir? You're traveling this week. I am. I've kicked off a spring and early summer of a bit more travel than I would actually like, I think.

But first stop is Dallas, Texas. I haven't been here since I think 2019.

So that's fun.

It's an interesting time to travel, I think.

But I had my first flight but Southwest in 12 years, I think.

So it's been a minute.

It's been a minute.

I actually haven't flown Southwest since the day

after the final AirTran flight. So yeah, it's been a little while, I'd say, huh?

So let's unpack this for a moment. You flew Southwest for the first time in a dozen years.

After the implementation or the beginning of

the implementation of all of the changes, thoughts? Yeah, it was like any other airline, I guess.

It's fairly, I don't say, maybe not soon, but hasn't been all that much times in Southwest

implemented, paid seat assignment, an extra leg room, but it't been all that much times in Southwest implemented paid seat assignment and extra

leg room.

But it was fine.

Everyone seemed to figure it out.

It was a little weird seeing no more boarding positions at the Southwest gates.

They just had, I guess, a podium or a pole really with two tablets on the top that said group

one on the left, group two on the right,

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