On this episode of Ab Talk, Gavin Werbiloff steps in for Jason as we dig into the numbers around some recent aircraft orders.

And we send Jason to Hamburg for the Aircraft Interior's Expo.

I'm disappointed that they didn't open the chilled champagne

models that were directly below the cookie.

Hello and welcome to episode 29 of AvToc I am E.m.

Petchenik and not here for the first time with Jason Rabinowitz.

Jason is off in Hamburg, Germany at the Aircraft Interior's Expo and we're going to hear from him a little bit later in the show.

Today I am joined by Gavin Warbeloff, who is a contributing writer for Runway Girl, a professional numbers guy, and we'll get to that a little bit later in the show,

a wildlife photographer, and a good one at that, and an Av geek UberNard.

Gavin, thank you so much for sitting in the other chair and joining us for the show.

Thank you for having me. I can't believe it took you 29 episodes to get rid of Jason.

I've been trying since episode 2 and I had to send him to Germany to do it but we did it he's gone oh wait with no

thanks to British Airways and Virgin Atlantic yeah we're gonna have to have him explain

why he did that in the next episode.

But he did some interesting booking things.

As he always says, I feel like anytime he travels,

I know we're in for a good story

because it's going to be screwed up somehow. Yeah, I mean just don't ask him about tap Portugal.

Never, never.

There are a few things you don't have to taste him about tap Portugal and making his

bed, but we'll move beyond that and just dive right into some news of the week with the big news for air traffic or at least it sounded like big news and it turns out it's not so big is ESA the European Aviation Safety Administration or agency

issued I mean it sounds very important a rapid alert notification that was

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