All right, John, welcome to the man talk show. How are you doing today? I'm doing good. How are you, Connor?

I'm great. I'm ready to talk about dad life. I appreciate the brand that you've put together

because I think it resonates with most dads, any man that's a father.

It's like the tired dad is a very real thing. I remember I came across one of your reels for the very first time and it was just like you pouring coffee and I was like, damn, that's smart.

I was like, that's my sacred time as a dad a dad you know like get up in the morning yeah turn on

the espresso machine and and have my uh my sacred ritual of uh making a good you know a good espresso

i love it yeah it's i think tired is a universal term we can all agree on that kind of sums up parenting.

You know, we're all, no matter what phase you're in, you understand that, yeah, we're tired.

Yeah.

Because these kids, they depend on us for a lot of things.

And yeah, coffee is my absolute favorite thing.

There's times when I put my kids to bed at night and I just think of how good that coffee

is going to be in the morning.

Yeah, I definitely, my wife and I got a nice espresso machine.

And when we first got it, there are definitely nights where I was walking past it. You know, the kids are in bed and I'm looking at it and I'm like, man, I can't wait to make a nice little coffee tomorrow morning. But it's, it's funny because you, you know, you see those reels of people that are parents talking to, or you see the content of people that are talking to folks that don't have kids. And I know that with one of my buddies, you know, he's like, you can't be that tiring. Like, it can't be that bad. What's it like? What's it like? You know, this is after my daughter was born. We had two kids. And I was like, dude, it is like being in a perpetual state of jet lag where you just chronically feel jet lagged like you can't catch up

on sleep and time and it's a wild experience you know yeah it's like it's like being a manager

of a company and your employees have no idea what they're doing and they depend on you for

everything and it's 24 24 7 of that yeah have no idea what they're doing and they depend on you for everything.

And it's 24, 24-7 of that.

Yeah.

Pretty much how it is.

Well, on that note, what do you think that, what do you think is needed from fathers today that is maybe different from what was needed from our dads or their dads?

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